Problem 093
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TripleM
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TiptTop
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Re: Problem 093
Seems like I did not understand the problem clearly.TripleM wrote:Yes, see the fourth example where * has been used more than once.
It says ".... it is possible to obtain thirty-one different target numbers .... and each of the numbers 1 to 28 can be obtained before encountering the first non-expressible number"
From the rules stated in the problem statement, one can get 31 different numbers with largest number 36. Then what is 28? Please clarify. Thanks.
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Re: Problem 093
All the numbers 1, 2, ..., 28 are expressible, 29 is the first number that is non-expressible using the set {1,2,3,4}.TiptTop wrote:Seems like I did not understand the problem clearly.TripleM wrote:Yes, see the fourth example where * has been used more than once.
It says ".... it is possible to obtain thirty-one different target numbers .... and each of the numbers 1 to 28 can be obtained before encountering the first non-expressible number"
From the rules stated in the problem statement, one can get 31 different numbers with largest number 36. Then what is 28? Please clarify. Thanks.
The question asks you to find a different set of digits; chosen to make that first non-expressible number is as high as possible.
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v6ph1
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Re: Problem 093
As stated in the problem description:
You can express all numbers from 1 to 28 - but not 29.
30 = 2*3*(1+4), 32 = 2*(1+3)*4 and 36 are the other three.
You can express all numbers from 1 to 28 - but not 29.
30 = 2*3*(1+4), 32 = 2*(1+3)*4 and 36 are the other three.

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joachim-ma
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Re: Problem 093
Hi, it's my first post in this forum
I don't get it, to build the 27 with the set in the example {1,2,3,4}
Could anybody help me?
I don't get it, to build the 27 with the set in the example {1,2,3,4}
Could anybody help me?
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Re: Problem 093
Think of the divisors of $27$, eg $27=3 \times 9$ . Now how can you reach $3$ and $9$ with the given inputs? I'm sure you'll work it out!
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joachim-ma
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Re: Problem 093
Thank you, I was blindsjhillier wrote:Think of the divisors of $27$, eg $27=3 \times 9$ . Now how can you reach $3$ and $9$ with the given inputs? I'm sure you'll work it out!
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itteerde
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Re: Problem 093
can someone plz check which case/s are wrong? Although I do not have any code fine tuned to the example it gets the exmple right but not the answer:
{{9},{0,1,2,3}}
{{10},{0,1,2,4}}
{{12},{0,1,2,5}}
{{14},{0,1,2,6}}
{{15},{0,2,3,7}}
{{28},{1,2,3,4}} //example
{{34},{1,2,3,8}}
{{37},{1,2,4,7}}
{{40},{1,2,4,9}}
{{43},{1,2,5,6}}
if that is what you get you are missing terms such as (9-(6-2))*3=15 and your shortcut does not work at all - back to proper tree of operators...
{{9},{0,1,2,3}}
{{10},{0,1,2,4}}
{{12},{0,1,2,5}}
{{14},{0,1,2,6}}
{{15},{0,2,3,7}}
{{28},{1,2,3,4}} //example
{{34},{1,2,3,8}}
{{37},{1,2,4,7}}
{{40},{1,2,4,9}}
{{43},{1,2,5,6}}
if that is what you get you are missing terms such as (9-(6-2))*3=15 and your shortcut does not work at all - back to proper tree of operators...
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DJohn
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Re: Problem 093
This forum isn't supposed to be for hints or checking partial solutions, although it seems that rule can be a bit flexible sometimes. You have correctly understood the problem.
Is it possible to make 8 from {1,3,7,9}?
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parasakin
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Re: Problem 093
Am I missing something????
1 = 6 + 8 / 9 - 5
2 = 6 + 9 - 5 - 8
3 = 8 + 6 / 9 - 5
4 = 8 + 9 / 6 - 5
5 = 9 + 8 / 6 - 5
6 = 8 + 9 - 5 - 6
7 = 8 * 9 / 6 - 5
8 = 8 + 5 / 6 * 9
9 = 9 + 5 / 6 * 8
10 = 5 + 6 + 8 - 9
11 = 5 + 6 + 8 / 9
12 = 5 + 6 + 9 - 8
13 = 5 + 8 + 6 / 9
14 = 5 + 8 + 9 / 6
15 = 5 + 9 + 8 / 6
16 = 5 + 8 + 9 - 6
17 = 8 + 9 + 5 / 6
18 = 6 + 8 + 9 - 5
19 = (5 + 8) * 9 / 6
20 = 6 + 8 * 9 / 5
21 = (8 - 5) * 9 - 6
22 = 5 * 9 / (8 - 6)
23 = (8 - 6) * 9 + 5
24 = 5 * 6 / 9 * 8
25 = 5 * 8 - 6 - 9
26 = 5 * 6 * 8 / 9
27 = 5 * 6 / 8 * 9
28 = 5 + 6 + 8 + 9
29 = 8 + 5 * 6 - 9
30 = 5 * 6 + 8 / 9
31 = 9 + 5 * 6 - 8
32 = (9 - 5) * 6 + 8
33 = 5 * 6 * 9 / 8
34 = 6 * 8 - 5 - 9
35 = (6 + 9 - 8) * 5
36 = (5 + 9 - 8) * 6
37 = 6 + 5 * 8 - 9
38 = (9 - 5) * 8 + 6
39 = 5 * 8 - 9 / 6
40 = 5 * 8 + 6 / 9
41 = 5 * 8 + 9 / 6
42 = 8 * 9 - 5 * 6
43 = 6 + 5 * 9 - 8
44 = 5 + 6 * 8 - 9
45 = 5 * 9 + 6 / 8
46 = 5 * 9 + 8 / 6
47 = 8 + 9 + 5 * 6
48 = 6 * 8 + 5 / 9
49 = 6 * 8 + 9 / 5
50 = (9 + 8 / 6) * 5
51 = 5 + 6 * 9 - 8
52 = 9 + 6 * 8 - 5
53 = 6 * 9 - 8 / 5
54 = 6 * 9 + 5 / 8
55 = 6 + 9 + 5 * 8
56 = 5 * 9 / 6 * 8
57 = 8 + 6 * 9 - 5
1 = 6 + 8 / 9 - 5
2 = 6 + 9 - 5 - 8
3 = 8 + 6 / 9 - 5
4 = 8 + 9 / 6 - 5
5 = 9 + 8 / 6 - 5
6 = 8 + 9 - 5 - 6
7 = 8 * 9 / 6 - 5
8 = 8 + 5 / 6 * 9
9 = 9 + 5 / 6 * 8
10 = 5 + 6 + 8 - 9
11 = 5 + 6 + 8 / 9
12 = 5 + 6 + 9 - 8
13 = 5 + 8 + 6 / 9
14 = 5 + 8 + 9 / 6
15 = 5 + 9 + 8 / 6
16 = 5 + 8 + 9 - 6
17 = 8 + 9 + 5 / 6
18 = 6 + 8 + 9 - 5
19 = (5 + 8) * 9 / 6
20 = 6 + 8 * 9 / 5
21 = (8 - 5) * 9 - 6
22 = 5 * 9 / (8 - 6)
23 = (8 - 6) * 9 + 5
24 = 5 * 6 / 9 * 8
25 = 5 * 8 - 6 - 9
26 = 5 * 6 * 8 / 9
27 = 5 * 6 / 8 * 9
28 = 5 + 6 + 8 + 9
29 = 8 + 5 * 6 - 9
30 = 5 * 6 + 8 / 9
31 = 9 + 5 * 6 - 8
32 = (9 - 5) * 6 + 8
33 = 5 * 6 * 9 / 8
34 = 6 * 8 - 5 - 9
35 = (6 + 9 - 8) * 5
36 = (5 + 9 - 8) * 6
37 = 6 + 5 * 8 - 9
38 = (9 - 5) * 8 + 6
39 = 5 * 8 - 9 / 6
40 = 5 * 8 + 6 / 9
41 = 5 * 8 + 9 / 6
42 = 8 * 9 - 5 * 6
43 = 6 + 5 * 9 - 8
44 = 5 + 6 * 8 - 9
45 = 5 * 9 + 6 / 8
46 = 5 * 9 + 8 / 6
47 = 8 + 9 + 5 * 6
48 = 6 * 8 + 5 / 9
49 = 6 * 8 + 9 / 5
50 = (9 + 8 / 6) * 5
51 = 5 + 6 * 9 - 8
52 = 9 + 6 * 8 - 5
53 = 6 * 9 - 8 / 5
54 = 6 * 9 + 5 / 8
55 = 6 + 9 + 5 * 8
56 = 5 * 9 / 6 * 8
57 = 8 + 6 * 9 - 5
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Re: Problem 093
6 + 8 / 9 - 5 is not a whole number (=1.88888....). Many computer languages will round an integer division such as 8/9 down to zero, but that is not a valid answer to the question. Take a good look at the examples given in the problem.
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TexasRebel
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Re: Problem 093
This is my last problem in the first 100...
I'm having a very difficult time not just guessing the 126 possible answers.
I'm having a very difficult time not just guessing the 126 possible answers.
- RishadanPort
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Re: Problem 093
What happens when if a number cannot be evenly divided. -- Does it just treat as int division.
AKA
1 / 2 = 0
or
1 / 2 = 0.5f
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AKA
1 / 2 = 0
or
1 / 2 = 0.5f
?

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Re: Problem 093
Nevermind. The problem explains it.

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